{"id":731,"date":"2008-01-09T03:55:52","date_gmt":"2008-01-09T08:55:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/?p=731"},"modified":"2008-08-26T14:52:23","modified_gmt":"2008-08-26T19:52:23","slug":"ces-day-1-monday-january-7-2008-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray-south-hall-tour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/?p=731","title":{"rendered":"CES Day 1- Monday, January 7, 2008 HD DVD and Blu-ray, South Hall tour"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Without question the big story of this CES is Warner&#8217;s dumping of HD DVD for Blu-ray exclusivity and the way the deal went down. \u00a0 I have inside information and will be writing in greater detail about it in the near future, but suffice it to say Warner Bros. wanted to end the format war and had to take action that would effectively kill a side. \u00a0 So, one of these formats was going to get whacked, but which one was going to get driven to the toll booth wasn&#8217;t decided until the last possible moment. \u00a0 I&#8217;m using some <em>The Godfather<\/em>\/Mafia terminology because in essense, &#8220;it&#8217;s nothing personal- only business&#8221; is the reason Warner did what they did, as the format war was hurting not only their hi-def sales across both formats but their regular DVD sales as well. \u00a0 This was clearly an untenable situation for them and if ultimately the only way to stop the bleeding was to take out their former partner Toshiba, they were willing to do it. \u00a0 Believe it or not, though disappointed I actually have no problem with them and what they did, business IS business and they have to do what is best for them. \u00a0 Still, one can&#8217;t help but think Toshiba deserved better from their former partner. \u00a0 It&#8217;s one thing to try and take them out; it&#8217;s another to do it in the way designed to cause the most damage and humilation you can possibly imagine. \u00a0 It&#8217;s actually far worse than I could have imagined before I came here- reminders are everywhere.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/pressbags2.jpg\" alt=\"pressbags2.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">First, you have the ever-present press bags I mentioned in my first report&#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/taxitent.jpg\" alt=\"taxitent.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Then, their are the taxicabs with magnetic tents promoting HD DVD, &#8220;THE ULTIMATE HD MOVIE MACHINE.&#8221; \u00a0 There are a LOT of them.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/hddvdbanners.jpg\" alt=\"hddvdbanners.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Then you have the huge banners flying all over \u00a0the North, South, and Central halls of the Las Vegas Convention Center. \u00a0 It&#8217;s a constant reminder of HD DVD and what has transpired recently. \u00a0 Given the big HD DVD Promotional Group shindig at The Wynn that was cancelled last moment, and the over-the-top promotional efforts at work here, it is clear that HD DVD thought they were bringing Warner over, or at least were going to keep them a while longer. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">It&#8217;s all pretty distasteful. \u00a0 I have \u00a0read that in China, condemned prisoners are sometimes marched naked around a filled soccer stadium before they are taken out to the countryside and shot. \u00a0 I can&#8217;t imagine anything more humiliating, it isn&#8217;t something I would wish on my worst enemy&#8230; and what we are seeing here is the corporate equivalent of it. \u00a0 This is the absolute worst way events could have transpired and the amount of pain and humiliation Toshiba is feeling right now must be unimaginable. \u00a0 Given the Japanese cultural importance of saving face, I suspect that this humilation \u00a0could soon turn to rage and we could see a response of some kind. \u00a0 Surprisingly, most of the press and many businesspeople I have been socializing with haven&#8217;t written Toshiba or HD DVD yet as it isn&#8217;t truly over until 100% of the studios belong to one side or the other, or they officially throw in the towel. \u00a0A few people I spoke with mentioned the cultural importance of saving face and that a reaction may be provoked out of spite.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Another wild card is Microsoft; no one knows how truly important \u00a0HD DVD is for them. \u00a0 With all their cash, they could pay Universal an ungodly sum to stay HD DVD exclusive for \u00a0two \u00a0years, with Toshiba could make combo players for a while and hoping Blu-ray can&#8217;t sort out their manufacturing issues. \u00a0 Toshiba could try paying off Universal out of spite, for them to stay HD DVD exclusive and to release all new movies as HD DVD\/combo discs. \u00a0 I am not suggesting they do this or that is a good idea; I am simply saying they do have options if they want to try and stay alive. \u00a0 Whether it makes business sense or if corporate pride demands it, only they know. \u00a0 A variation of HD DVD, CH DVD, is the official, universally mandated high-def disc format of China, and what the government says, goes in that country. \u00a0 Toshiba will always have that in their pocket as a great accomplishment, and they could use that as a source of cheap players and make every DVD player they sell in the USA HD DVD-capable. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/stringer.jpg\" alt=\"stringer.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><strong>Sir Howard Stringer, CEO, Sony Corporation of America<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\u00a0Image Credit: Sony<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">My personal guess is <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sony.com\/SCA\/bios\/stringer.shtml\">Sir Howard Stringer<\/a>, Sony CEO, is going to find a way to end this peacefully before the ante gets raised, allowing Toshiba to save some face and putting this messy format war \u00a0all in the past. \u00a0 He has already offered the HD side an olive branch, to work together to promote adotion of HD media. \u00a0 I have to tell you, I really like this guy and his honest, very genuine manner. \u00a0 In an interview published in early December he called the format war a &#8220;stalemate,&#8221; which was quickly picked up by the media as the first bit of humility coming from the Blu-ray group and uncharacteristic of a Sony executive. \u00a0 In that same interview, he commented he wished he was around earlier so he could have worked to avoid a format war. \u00a0 It has become obvious to me that he didn&#8217;t say that because he was afraid of losing a battle&#8230; he said it because he wanted to avoid the messiness and do what is best for all. \u00a0 When asked about a Warner Bros. payoff ($500 million, though Warner said that was not why they made the move, I am sure it was a nice side effect) Sir Howard gave \u00a0a response that amounted to a wink and a nod&#8230; I will try to find the question and his reply and post it later. \u00a0 Anyway, it looks like he is about to pull off a HUGE victory for Sony and if he does, he has forever exorcised the Betamax ghost that has haunted them all these years and if he keeps doing what he is doing, then great things lie in store for them.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">As for me, I am buying a PS3 and a bunch of Blu-ray discs when I get back home. \u00a0 Though I have tested Blu-ray I have yet to buy into it, as I really didn&#8217;t want a game machine as my player and I won&#8217;t buy a Blu-ray player that isn&#8217;t profile 2.0, no gimped machines for me! \u00a0 It&#8217;s one of the reasons I&#8217;ve never been able to bring myself to recommend Blu-ray up until now. \u00a0 I&#8217;ll continue to buy HD DVDs when I can and enjoy both formats indefinitely. \u00a0 Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing those Pixar movies!\u00a0\u00a0 As for my readers, if you have been wanting to try Blu-ray I say go for it with \u00a0a Playstation \u00a03 as it is by \u00a0far the best player and updatable to future profiles. \u00a0 If you are one of those people who don&#8217;t want a game machine as your player \u00a0because of form factor, lack of display, etc. just get a PS3 until profile 2.0 players come down to a price you can stomach. \u00a0 And now, off to the show! \u00a0 CES is quite a spectacle, I hope you enjoy getting a closer look at it.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/lvcc.jpg\" alt=\"lvcc.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><strong>Las Vegas Convention Center<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">The Consumer Electronics Show, or simply CES, is the biggest trade show in the world. \u00a0 It fills up the entire (huge) \u00a0Las Vegas Convention Center, large tents in front of it, and many suites in the strip hotels. \u00a0 A colleague brought a pedometer and found she walked six miles per day, just in the Convention Center. \u00a0 That sounds about right.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/radiient.jpg\" alt=\"radiient.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">I spent most of my day in the South Hall, where I found a few surprises. \u00a0 First of all, there was <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.radiient.com\/\">Radiient Technologies<\/a>, demonstration their Roomcaster wireless speaker system.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/radspeakers.jpg\" alt=\"radspeakers.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Those speaker cabinets may look somewhat familiar to a lot of you&#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\u00a0<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/insigclone.jpg\" alt=\"insigclone.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">That&#8217;s because they are \u00a0clearly woodgrain-finished clones of the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bestbuy.com\/site\/olspage.jsp?skuId=7705307&amp;st=ns-b2111&amp;lp=1&amp;type=product&amp;cp=1&amp;id=1138085354138\">$87.98 Insignia NS-B2111 <\/a>I have been recommending for over a year. \u00a0 They certainly sound great at any price, I just hope they are not planning to charge a lot for them by changing the finish and the name on the grille!<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/swans.jpg\" alt=\"swans.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Some impressive speakers from Swans. \u00a0 Swans speakers are distributed in the USA by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theaudioinsider.com\">The Audio Insider<\/a>, who also distributes the outstanding Acculine speakers I have written about recently.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/westinghouse.jpg\" alt=\"westinghouse.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Westinghouse had their wide line of \u00a0 value-pricced LCD products on display, as well as one not-so-value-priced.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/kitchentvs.jpg\" alt=\"kitchentvs.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">These TVs were designed to be used in a kitchen, with white or stainless steel finish \u00a0to match appliances. \u00a0 They can be mounted under a cabinet and adjust for optimum viewing position.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/quadhd.jpg\" alt=\"quadhd.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">This is Westinghouse&#8217;s QuadHD (4 x 1080p) LCD display, fed by two dual-link DVI cables. \u00a0 Designed for commercial use, it costs $50,000. \u00a0 I can&#8217;t tell you how good this thing looks in person. \u00a0 It looks more like a backlit, extremely high resolution transparency than a digital display. \u00a0 Colors are beautiful and even from a foot away you can&#8217;t see any pixels. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/kodak.jpg\" alt=\"kodak.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">As usual, Kodak had a large, extremely impressive booth with a nice press lounge for us to rest our feet and enjoy some complimentary refreshments.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/kiosk.jpg\" alt=\"kiosk.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Of note was their new kiosk software, designed to be even more intuitive and easy to use&#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/kodakcam.jpg\" alt=\"kodakcam.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">&#8230;as well as this very nice ultrazoom camera, the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.kodak.com\/eknec\/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-locale=en_US&amp;pq-path=11592\">Kodak Z812 IS<\/a>. \u00a0 For only $279 you get a 12x Schneider zoom lens, optical image stabiliztion, and component HD outputs for viewing your pictures natively on an HDTV at full resolution. \u00a0 Nice! It&#8217;s compact for an ultrazoom and if the image quality is good, it will be an easy recommend.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/gracenote.jpg\" alt=\"gracenote.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Gracenote booth. \u00a0 If you have an iPod and an internet connection, you&#8217;ve been a Gracenote client and probably didn&#8217;t even know it. \u00a0 Gracenote supplies the track and artist information when you rip a CD using iTunes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/bluone.jpg\" alt=\"bluone.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Blu-ray had quite an impressive booth featuring a mock-up of a wrecked pirate ship&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/blutwo.jpg\" alt=\"blutwo.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">&#8230;and Simpsons characters. \u00a0 Also note the Silver Surfer above the WB logo on the right.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\" style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/bluthree.jpg\" alt=\"bluthree.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">A 105 inch Panasonic plasma ($70,000) was used for an impressive demonstration. \u00a0 Obviously, the Blu-ray folks were over the moon given the events of late and there was a lot of excitement here.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/hddvdone.jpg\" alt=\"hddvdone.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">Which brings us to their competitor, ironically located directly next to the Blu-ray booth. \u00a0 I expected it to be a ghost town and morale to be very low \u00a0 here.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/hddvd2.jpg\" alt=\"hddvd2.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">Surprisingly, that wasn&#8217;t the case. \u00a0 A lot of people were prowling around the booth and when I got there, someone was giving a demonstration of HD DVD web interactivity using <em>The Bourne Ultimatum, <\/em>as the presenter boasted that this interactivity was available with any HD DVD player ever made&#8230; due to HD DVD&#8217;s set standards from the start. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/hddvd5.jpg\" alt=\"hddvd5.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">The audience was in perfect attention and listened to everything he had to say, and watched the show from start to finish before leaving. \u00a0 A standing-room only crowd&#8230; who&#8217;da ever guessed? \u00a0 Hardly what I expected for a format that many have written off for dead.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">I spoke with the people manning the booth and they were surpisingly upbeat. \u00a0 They said they were cringing before the show opened, expecting the worse and a lot of negativity thrown their way. \u00a0 Turns out the traffic and commentary had been about 95% positive, and many people had come up to them and expressed how much they liked the product and how it made HD movies affordable and hoped that it would go on. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/dolby.jpg\" alt=\"dolby.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">Dolby \u00a0booth, featuring a life-size model of the Transformer Bumblebee.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/dxg.jpg\" alt=\"dxg.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">DXG had this 720p HD camcorder with a 5x optical zoom. \u00a0 It records to an SD card and will retail for $199, coming out by Q2 2008. \u00a0 I created and reviewed some sample footage with it and reviewed it on a 37&#8243; LCD DTV. \u00a0 While it wasn&#8217;t nearly as good as an AVC or HDV camcorder, it looked better than HTSC MiniDV would have since it is feeding it a native signal. \u00a0 This one should be fun for anyone wanting to get a taste of HD movie recording without the huge investment usually required.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/01\/bb.jpg\" alt=\"bb.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: center\"><strong>Booth babes! \u00a0 They&#8217;re all over CES.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"text-align: left\">That&#8217;s it for today&#8230; \u00a0been a long \u00a0couple of days. \u00a0I have lots more to share with you from Monday as well as Tuesday, so be sure to stop back! \u00a0 I&#8217;m a bit behind but I assure you it will be worth the wait. \u00a0 I have a lot more to share from day one and today was pretty amazing, too.<\/p>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n  addthis_url    = 'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.soundadviceblog.com%2F%3Fp%3D731';\n  addthis_title  = 'CES+Day+1-+Monday%2C+January+7%2C+2008+HD+DVD+and+Blu-ray%2C+South+Hall+tour';\n  addthis_pub    = '';\n<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/s7.addthis.com\/js\/addthis_widget.php?v=12\" ><\/script>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Without question the big story of this CES is Warner&#8217;s dumping of HD DVD for Blu-ray exclusivity and the way the deal went down. \u00a0 I have inside information and will be writing in greater detail about it in the near future, but suffice it to say Warner Bros. wanted to end the format war [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[46,6],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/731"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=731"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/731\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=731"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=731"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.soundadviceblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=731"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}